OK all you KATL wishers.. here's your chance..

KPryor · Post by **KPryor** » Tue May 27, 2008 4:18 pm

FlySanJose wrote: Well, I can only speculate as to which ones hes specifically referring to; but I'm doing STL and Shez Ansari is doing PHL.

I, for one, am very glad to hear you're doing STL. It's one of my favorites and you do outstanding work, so I'm really looking forward to it.
KP

mackintosh · Post by **mackintosh** » Wed May 28, 2008 5:06 am

FlySanJose wrote:Why be the third payware company to do IAD when you can go 50 miles northeast and be the first to do BWI?

Probably for the reasons I outlined above

1) No high-quality freeware alternative available or in development
2) Payware alternatives poor quality and/or outdated
3) In-demand airport (that's my own assumption, could be wrong)

There might be a reason 4), but I don't know whether Cal's been involved in the Simflyers rendition. If he has, he probably already has a lot of materials available to build on, thus that would mean a shorter development time (again, an assumption on my part).

I'm not sure what the demand for BWI would be. FWIW, I'd love to have it, but I'm pretty certain that there's more bang for buck to be had out of KIAD, seeing as it is a gateway to Europe for a lot of flights.

MidgeyMidget2 wrote:Mac, you do realize that they covered LGA which Shez did do. Obviously Shez's was a little old but they still covered it.

Actually, I completely forgot about that. I guess Cal's decided that Shez's LGA was something he could compete with. I'll need to redownload and install Shez's rendition and see how it looks compared to Imaginesim's. I've dumped all the NYC airports that I've had installed a while ago, the overall impact on the area was nothing short of crippling. I wonder how FSDT's JFK will fare in this bottleneck.

Dimon · Post by **Dimon** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 9:47 am

MidgeyMidget2 wrote:
tjsynkral wrote:He doesn't even believe he can compete with freeware:

Well, sadly for us at least, it looks as though both KPHL and KSTL have imminent freeware releases about to be finished which means we will have to withdraw from both projects.
(Which releases are he talking about?)
Not to mention the fact that KIAD has a decent payware already out that wasn't released long ago. Quite puzzling in my opinion.

BluePrint is the crappiest crap I've ever seen. i hope they will go bankrupt soon.

MidgeyMidget2 · Post by **MidgeyMidget2** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:16 am

Dimon wrote:
MidgeyMidget2 wrote:
tjsynkral wrote:He doesn't even believe he can compete with freeware:
(Which releases are he talking about?)
Not to mention the fact that KIAD has a decent payware already out that wasn't released long ago. Quite puzzling in my opinion.
BluePrint is the crappiest crap I've ever seen. i hope they will go bankrupt soon.

Dude, calm down. Yes it is no FlyTampa, but they don't charge as much as FlyTampa. There price is quite approapriate. Go fly a kite you moron.

skydvdan · Post by **skydvdan** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 3:58 pm

Dimon wrote:
MidgeyMidget2 wrote:
tjsynkral wrote:He doesn't even believe he can compete with freeware:
(Which releases are he talking about?)
Not to mention the fact that KIAD has a decent payware already out that wasn't released long ago. Quite puzzling in my opinion.
BluePrint is the crappiest crap I've ever seen. i hope they will go bankrupt soon.

Wow!! I'm not saying I agree or disagree but can you at least explain? It will give your arguement more credibility. I personally don't have any of their stuff so please explain for the rest of us.

deltaboeing84 · Post by **deltaboeing84** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 5:09 pm

Dimon wrote:
MidgeyMidget2 wrote:
tjsynkral wrote:He doesn't even believe he can compete with freeware:
(Which releases are he talking about?)
Not to mention the fact that KIAD has a decent payware already out that wasn't released long ago. Quite puzzling in my opinion.
BluePrint is the crappiest crap I've ever seen. i hope they will go bankrupt soon.

Quit talkin' out your buttcrack. There sceneries are getting better with each scenery. Plus it's for a good cause from what the website says. You think you can pop anything better out go ahead. I agree with midgetymidget. Go fly a kite moron.

Dimon · Post by **Dimon** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 6:14 pm

skydvdan wrote:
Dimon wrote:
MidgeyMidget2 wrote: Not to mention the fact that KIAD has a decent payware already out that wasn't released long ago. Quite puzzling in my opinion.
BluePrint is the crappiest crap I've ever seen. i hope they will go bankrupt soon.
Wow!! I'm not saying I agree or disagree but can you at least explain? It will give your arguement more credibility. I personally don't have any of their stuff so please explain for the rest of us.

Why? I think I have already stated my opinion. What else you want to hear?

If a kid don't have 20 bucks to buy a scenery, it's problem of the kid - right? If I say that PAYWARE product is bullshit, it's called customer feedback whether you like it or not.

It say it again = BP crap is worse than 99% of amateur freeware stuff that might be found on avsim.com. If you have 15 bucks to invest, so give it charity.

Chao.

deltaboeing84 · Post by **deltaboeing84** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 7:28 pm

I'll admit, BP isn't up to FlyTampa, Imaginesim, aerosoft, or any of the other major scenery design groups, but they have good sceneries. They have done a lot of sceneries most PAYWARE people won't touch. And yes, except for a couple, MSP and IND, there are freeware sceneries, that look pretty much like the BP scenery. The MSP and SDF sceneries are great, as well as MEM from BP. Dan, if you do, try one of the latest ones out if your curious. Only 15$, like I said. I would recommend MEM or MSP.

I have found a lot worse stuff on avsim, your full of crap.

skydvdan · Post by **skydvdan** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:12 pm

Dimon wrote:Why? I think I have already stated my opinion. What else you want to hear?

I'm trying to help you build some credability. If you just say something is crap then people will just assume that you have a personal problem with the developer or company. I want to hear why it's crap. Does it have shitty performance, horrible textures, inaccurate models, fictional layout? I could go on all day, I have credability, people listen because I give them a reason to.

Dimon wrote: If a kid don't have 20 bucks to buy a scenery, it's problem of the kid - right? If I say that PAYWARE product is bullshit, it's called customer feedback whether you like it or not.

What you are doing is not feedback, it's mindless bashing. You state no facts but only your own biased opinions. I find it hard to believe that you are looking out for anyone.

Dimon wrote: It say it again = BP crap is worse than 99% of amateur freeware stuff that might be found on avsim.com. If you have 15 bucks to invest, so give it charity.

Can you give examples of "amateur freeware stuff" that is better than Blueprint? (The freeware Boston from FT isn't amateur.) So help yourself by giving people real reasons for what you are stating and maybe folks will take you more seriously. Btw, how many of their sceneries do you have?
My personal opinion based on the screenshots alone is that their sceneries look similar to Simflyers sceneries back in 2001. Blueprint's quality seems to be better but it seems comparable in the design technique. They use very simple textures as opposed to other more accomplished developers. Personally I'd like to see the price of their sceneries closer to $10. I'd call that a fair comparison, wouldn't you?

Simflyers KIAD circa 2001

BluePrints KIAD present day

Dimon · Post by **Dimon** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 10:53 pm

I'd like to finish this discussion. You call it bashing - your choice. You wanna fly around ugly textures and buildings - it's your choice again. My choice is FT, Aerosoft/Simwings, GAP, IMS and FSDT.

As far as feeware stuff: just 2 names that pop up in my mind - Shez and Mach1

Happy landings.

skydvdan · Post by **skydvdan** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:05 pm

Dimon wrote:I'd like to finish this discussion. You call it bashing - your choice. You wanna fly around ugly textures and buildings - it's your choice again. My choice is FT, Aerosoft/Simwings, GAP, IMS and FSDT.

As far as feeware stuff: just 2 names that pop up in my mind - Shez and Mach1

Happy landings.

I agree in that I'm done discussing this with you. Calling people out with no evidence is bashing. As I said, I don't have their sceneries so I can only compare through screenshots. Right or wrong you are entitled to your opinion but at least make it sound like you know what you're talking about before you trash someones work.

BP crap is worse than 99% of amateur freeware stuff that might be found on avsim.com

99%?

deltaboeing84 · Post by **deltaboeing84** » Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:07 pm

I agree with Dan. Plus, it beats the hell outta the default scenery anyways.

skydvdan · Post by **skydvdan** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:08 am

deltaboeing84 wrote:I agree with Dan. Plus, it beats the hell outta the default scenery anyways.

I was LMAO with how you ended this post before you edited it.

skydvdan · Post by **skydvdan** » Mon Jun 02, 2008 2:38 am

Dimon wrote: As far as feeware stuff: just 2 names that pop up in my mind - Shez and Mach1

Just remember that not all payware is created equally.

Just a few names that pop into my mind:

Captain Keith Sceneries
RealScenes