Dirt effect on concrete

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mcbellette
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Dirt effect on concrete

Post by mcbellette » Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:06 pm

As the title suggests, I am seeing numerous instances where I am taxiing on concrete but see the dirt effect (dirt being kicked up by the tyres) when I should not. Seems that for some reason developers haven't set the scenery correctly for where dirt is and is not in some areas. Can this be looked into? One area I recall is in the apron outside the freight terminal beside the International.
george[flytampa]
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by george[flytampa] » Sun Jun 14, 2015 5:16 pm

It's intentional. I like a little dust being kicked up off the main line. On the helicopter ramp especially, its nice to see dust stirred up by the rotor wash.
mcbellette
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by mcbellette » Sun Jun 14, 2015 6:48 pm

george[flytampa] wrote:It's intentional. I like a little dust being kicked up off the main line. On the helicopter ramp especially, its nice to see dust stirred up by the rotor wash.
I don't want to sound pedantic, but in reality there isn't/shouldn't be any dirt being kicked up on taxiways and apron areas. Why? Quarantine restrictions.

I noticed when work was being done on the International Terminal at YSSY a number of years ago that all construction vehicles leaving the worksite had to drive through a shallow bathing pool to wash their tyres. They were quite fastidious about it.

I asked one of the construction workers having lunch in the terminal why this was done. He explained that if they left mud tracks from the trucks all over the apron and taxiways the mud/dirt would get picked up by the tyres of aircraft as they taxied and it would then get transported to whichever country they were flying to and then deposited on the ground there when the landing gear doors re-opened for landing. By bathing the tyres, it is supposed to stop the possible spread of contaminants from our country to others.
XCLTM3
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by XCLTM3 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 1:46 am

I thought I'd add my 2 cents worth here.

It's not really a quarantine issue but an issue concerning "FOD".

This is a term for "Foreign Objects Displacement". A huge problem when the jetwash of one aircraft kicks foreign objects (ie dried mud, pebbles, rocks, etc) into an aircraft travelling-taxiing behind them.

FOD can also hit ground crew and cause considerable harm.

Therefore, the best airports in the world have a zero tolerance for any FOD. There are crews out there constantly checking runways, taxiiways and ramps clearing them for safety hazard reduction or FOD reduction in this instance.
mcbellette
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by mcbellette » Mon Jun 15, 2015 5:12 am

XCLTM3 wrote:I thought I'd add my 2 cents worth here.

It's not really a quarantine issue but an issue concerning "FOD".

This is a term for "Foreign Objects Displacement". A huge problem when the jetwash of one aircraft kicks foreign objects (ie dried mud, pebbles, rocks, etc) into an aircraft travelling-taxiing behind them.

FOD can also hit ground crew and cause considerable harm.

Therefore, the best airports in the world have a zero tolerance for any FOD. There are crews out there constantly checking runways, taxiiways and ramps clearing them for safety hazard reduction or FOD reduction in this instance.
Makes sense - could've been a combination of the two I saw in Sydney...
pete_auau
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by pete_auau » Mon Jun 15, 2015 6:30 am

[quote="XCLTM3"]I thought I'd add my 2 cents worth here.

It's not really a quarantine issue but an issue concerning "FOD".

This is a term for "Foreign Objects Displacement".

First time i seen this the term FOD, was always thought it was debris or damaged not displacement
XCLTM3
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by XCLTM3 » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:03 pm

My bad,

yes Pete - the "D" stands for "Debris" not "Displacement" as I incorrectly used.
george[flytampa]
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by george[flytampa] » Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:15 pm

I always thought it was Foreign Object Damage.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafvalley/flyinginfo/fod.cfm
pete_auau
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by pete_auau » Tue Jun 16, 2015 4:52 am

george[flytampa] wrote:I always thought it was Foreign Object Damage.
http://www.raf.mod.uk/rafvalley/flyinginfo/fod.cfm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_object_damage
BoazDK
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Re: Dirt effect on concrete

Post by BoazDK » Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:08 pm

this release is so perfect, and you have to complain about this?!
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