Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

BodoM
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Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by BodoM » Sun Nov 18, 2012 5:20 am

Hi Martin,

I bought this great scenery and use it with FS9. However, I have a weird problem. The entire parts of buildings located between the sea and the airport will disappear when moving towards this area.

Here you see the background as it should be:

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Now turning to the left a bit from the same point and you see the effect, the buildings will disappear:

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Same thing you are moving closer (before I had the position as can be seen in image #1):

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Any idea what is wrong?
ArturAir
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by ArturAir » Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:24 pm

The same for me :?
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martin[flytampa]
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by martin[flytampa] » Mon Nov 19, 2012 4:10 am

Very weird.

Please test the following replacement BGL.

Note this test/fix only covers a specific area marked in the screenshot below. So look for changes in behavior there, not elsewhere.
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BodoM
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by BodoM » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:28 pm

Hi Martin,

no change in behaviour with the attached file. However it could have something to do with the Afcad file. If I use the one you provided with latest updates of VOR/ILS frequencies I have this problem. If I use the version 1.4.1 of the user Er!k, the scenery loads fine directly after the change and loading FS:

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After closing FS and reload, the same problem: :-(

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Closing FS again and reload the scenery works fine again:

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ArturAir
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by ArturAir » Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:42 pm

I made the short video. I hope it will help to investigate the problem.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KddOr8qg ... e=youtu.be
I use Afcad v1.4.1
Er!k
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by Er!k » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi Artur, tested this myself (with my own AFCAD) and cannot reproduce it... Have you tested this also with the default AFCAD?
ArturAir
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by ArturAir » Mon Nov 19, 2012 2:32 pm

Maybe it is not afcad problem
martin[flytampa]
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by martin[flytampa] » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:11 pm

The video looks more like a view angle problem then a distance problem. I saw this reported for example at Hong Kong as well, but never figured out why it only affected very few users. If there is perhaps some CFG setting they have in common etc.
martin[flytampa]
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by martin[flytampa] » Mon Nov 19, 2012 10:31 pm

Another test file. Again covering only the area marked red in the previous post's screenshot. Let me know if this prevents the buildings in that area from popping out of view.
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edetroit
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by edetroit » Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:40 am

Hello Martin, I would say certain areas of Dubai city do not like being looked at at a certain angle. I make a flight around in a chopper and record a video.
Swag
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by Swag » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:23 pm

Hmm maybe this is related somehow to my observation in the low fps performance thread where minimal changes in the viewing angle almost halved the FPS?
edetroit
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by edetroit » Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:36 pm

edetroit wrote:Hello Martin, I would say certain areas of Dubai city do not like being looked at at a certain angle. I make a flight around in a chopper and record a video.
Here is my chopper flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lcG5Ouy7-E
martin[flytampa]
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by martin[flytampa] » Wed Nov 21, 2012 7:52 pm

Thanks Ed. I'm still unable to reproduce this problem here so I need some help figuring a solution.

If you have the time, can you move all dubai-city****.bgls except:
dubai-city10.bgl

Then test FS9 and see if that particular "piece" of the city by itself ever pops out. If you haven't downloaded the newer dubai-city10.bgl test files above feel free to try with the default dubai-city10.bgl first, then download the new file above and try with that.

Either way, if that city-piece by itself never pops out of view, then re-add all the dubai-city****.bgls and see if the same piece starts popping out just by because all the other BGLs are present.
edetroit
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Re: Scenery parts disappear when moving closer...

Post by edetroit » Wed Nov 21, 2012 11:53 pm

I will test today thankyou Martin.
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