Next Airport?

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MUC
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by MUC » Sun Oct 31, 2010 8:50 pm

Hello,

maybe I'm a bit late, but here is my suggestion: Martinique TFFF and/or Guadeloupe TFFR. Those are nice caribbean medium scaled airports, nevertheless important destinations for french airlines.

Seems the decision has been set up yet, but maybe this suggestions are to be considered in the far future...? 8)

PS: I'm really looking forward to fly arround the Acropolys. If you need some photos of it, I got some old holiday shots. :P
jkpcrevier
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by jkpcrevier » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:35 pm

george[flytampa] wrote:My current shortlist:

CYQB Québec, Canada - Current favourite with beautiful Lush surroundings.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6875306

LGAV Athens, Greece - Love it. Just poor aerials. Even commercial aerials were terrible & cost 1300euros.
I'll return to it once the google recon team violate some greek privacy :)
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6908846

KJAX Jacksonville, USA - Favourite for months. Still want to do it later.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=179666

others I've taken seriously recently..
KDCA
KBUR
KONT
KVNY
CYUL
& one in Japan I've forgot the name of.

I'm well aware these choices won't be incredibly popular. I know, only too well, most our 'forum' users lives depend on KLAX, KPHX, KMIA, KDEN etc, but I want to avoid these; because to develop a series of these large suckers with require large boxy interchangeable assets which will result in our airports all starting to look the same. & I don't enjoy it. I prefer to do some 'artwork', refine & add details. Even if there was time to refine a large airport, the resource overhead is too small. If it was up to me, I'd be joining Bill Womack any making Cessna parks with 1500ft runways. I just love them.

Buffalo was actually more work than Seattle & Boston put together. Smaller doesn't mean its a quick buck. There's WAY more detail in Buffalo than say Boston, or most other large airport sceneries out there. The surrounding 3D detail, photoscenery, autogen(tight-in around the airport) & seasonal textures added moths to the development time. Most our competitors don't bother.
For the Quebec Jean-Lessage,,, we already have a very nice one... but we don't have a good one for CYUL :shock:
jkpcrevier
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by jkpcrevier » Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:35 pm

george[flytampa] wrote:My current shortlist:

CYQB Québec, Canada - Current favourite with beautiful Lush surroundings.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6875306

LGAV Athens, Greece - Love it. Just poor aerials. Even commercial aerials were terrible & cost 1300euros.
I'll return to it once the google recon team violate some greek privacy :)
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=6908846

KJAX Jacksonville, USA - Favourite for months. Still want to do it later.
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=179666

others I've taken seriously recently..
KDCA
KBUR
KONT
KVNY
CYUL
& one in Japan I've forgot the name of.

I'm well aware these choices won't be incredibly popular. I know, only too well, most our 'forum' users lives depend on KLAX, KPHX, KMIA, KDEN etc, but I want to avoid these; because to develop a series of these large suckers with require large boxy interchangeable assets which will result in our airports all starting to look the same. & I don't enjoy it. I prefer to do some 'artwork', refine & add details. Even if there was time to refine a large airport, the resource overhead is too small. If it was up to me, I'd be joining Bill Womack any making Cessna parks with 1500ft runways. I just love them.

Buffalo was actually more work than Seattle & Boston put together. Smaller doesn't mean its a quick buck. There's WAY more detail in Buffalo than say Boston, or most other large airport sceneries out there. The surrounding 3D detail, photoscenery, autogen(tight-in around the airport) & seasonal textures added moths to the development time. Most our competitors don't bother.
For the Quebec Jean-Lessage,,, we already have a very nice one... but we don't have a good one for CYUL :shock:
SpartaN
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by SpartaN » Mon Nov 08, 2010 2:10 am

Hello George,

here I've gathered literally everything I could find for LGAV on JetPhotos.net & Airliners.net.
I hope this will be helpful for the creation of the Airport.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Macedoni ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//0191186 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Turkish- ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Turkish- ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Olympic/ ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aegean-A ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cyprus-A ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Thai-Air ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Swissair ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Emirates ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeris/Bo ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Alitalia ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Nigerian ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//0453395 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//0392853 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Cyprus-A ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Olympic/ ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//0476481 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Dassault ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Olympic/ ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeris/Bo ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Interjet ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Olympic/ ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Olympic/ ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Royal-Jo ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//0793823 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//0935818 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Olympic/ ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo//1573141 ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Emirates ... e4a058086a
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aegean-A ... e4a058086a
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 131&nseq=7
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 46&nseq=14
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 11&nseq=25
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 56&nseq=34
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 53&nseq=35
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 57&nseq=37
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 97&nseq=38
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 49&nseq=59
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 63&nseq=86
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 38&nseq=88
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 8&nseq=148
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 6&nseq=197
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 3&nseq=232
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 4&nseq=292
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 2&nseq=291
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 4&nseq=290
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 6&nseq=312
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 0&nseq=363
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 1&nseq=437
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 1&nseq=509
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 5&nseq=513
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 0&nseq=515
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 8&nseq=519
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 6&nseq=551
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 0&nseq=578
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 4&nseq=580
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 2&nseq=613
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 0&nseq=624
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 5&nseq=724
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 9&nseq=747
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 5&nseq=782
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 3&nseq=784
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 8&nseq=785
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php? ... 7&nseq=786


Looking forward to FlyAthens
george[flytampa]
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by george[flytampa] » Mon Nov 08, 2010 10:38 am

SpartaN wrote:Hello George,

here I've gathered literally everything I could find for LGAV on JetPhotos.net & Airliners.net.
I hope this will be helpful for the creation of the Airport.


Looking forward to FlyAthens


Thx Spartan. I'd already sniffed out most of what is available online. I missed a few of those though.
This airport will be almost entirely built from reference photos due to no birds eye views & good high res aerials.
SpartaN
Posts: 148

Re: Next Airport?

Post by SpartaN » Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:47 am

I wish I could help more man.

A question about the aerials: Why are they so important? Isn't google earth with its measuring tool enough?
Would you like dimensions?

More photos from me soon.

Regards,

Peter
Last edited by SpartaN on Tue Jun 14, 2011 3:43 am, edited 1 time in total.
Jeff Favignano
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by Jeff Favignano » Mon Nov 08, 2010 12:46 pm

Personally I would love to see some NWT airports done such as Yellowknife,Hay River, Deline, etc.
george[flytampa]
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by george[flytampa] » Tue Nov 09, 2010 12:52 pm


Thanks, those might be helpful. The Tower I've already completed however.
To answer your question about aerials. Aerials only provide a top down plan view. Birds eye provides angled views from four angles, North, South, East, West. So i can see the details on the sides of buildings. Downtown Athens has birds eye(Bing maps), the airport doesn't, so I rely on Photos to fill the gaps.
cmpbllsjc
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by cmpbllsjc » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:50 am

george[flytampa] wrote:We have a large US airport due in a month or two for K lovers :D
This was posted on Sept 27th.

Are we getting close to the two months when the "K" airport is going to be revealed? Seems like it should be about time since Nov 27 will be two months :-)
wideloadwhitford
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by wideloadwhitford » Fri Nov 12, 2010 12:14 pm

Hoping its KSLC
CARST
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by CARST » Fri Nov 12, 2010 6:24 pm

Perhaps it is already too late to vote for an airport, because you seem to be already have your hands full with that mentioned US-airport and Athens, but here are my 2 cents...


The result of the ongoing discussion seems to be that you have to build more famous airports to make money with the project, but you have a point that large hubs seem to be too much for a 1-man/2-men-team, too.


In my opinion there is a compromise, there are a lot of smaller airports that are still very popular. Airports everyone knows like "holiday airports" or airports that are famous because of their high amount of traffic on very small ground.

LGA and DCA are perfect examples for the high-traffic-small-ground-airports. Also LGW in England (busiest one-runway-airport in the world after old HKG closed down).

Holiday airports like TPA, KeyWest, (New Orleans?)...

And there are hub-airports that are not extremely large, SFO is one example, ANC another one. But I don't know what is the biggest size you want to start with.


Going by user numbers (regarding where most people come from) on IVAO & VATSIM seems to be a good point for an economical decision, too.
I know Aerosoft has Europe covered very good, but there are still some famous airports that don't have been done, at least not in a good quality. Rome? Athens! (you know that already)
And there are a lot famous holiday airports in Asia. The new Bangkok airport, both airports in Tokyo, Seoul.
Major Canadian airports seem to be a good idea, too. I see a lof of online traffic over there; Montreal, Vancouver, Calgary.

I don't know what fraction of your airports sold to Europe come frome Aerosoft (as they sell the download-product and have the boxes in the shops, too), but as they seem to sell only high-quality add-ons and not every developers products I say don't be afraid to develop an airport that has already been done by someone else, especially if it is an FS2002 or freeware product.
Every producer is afraid of having to split a market with too many others, but in the end there will only be two winners. The one with the lowest price (that are the freeware products in this case) and the one with the best quality (don't have to be the highest price in every case).
So go for quality, make an economical decision and make us users happy! ^^



Whatever your decision will be, I really hope there will never be a point that leads you to stop making FS add-ons, keep going and have fun doing it!


Carst
PippinL
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by PippinL » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:18 am

george[flytampa] wrote:
SpartaN wrote:Hello George,

here I've gathered literally everything I could find for LGAV on JetPhotos.net & Airliners.net.
I hope this will be helpful for the creation of the Airport.


Looking forward to FlyAthens


Thx Spartan. I'd already sniffed out most of what is available online. I missed a few of those though.
This airport will be almost entirely built from reference photos due to no birds eye views & good high res aerials.


Usually a good source for detailed pictures is flickr.com. Have a look (just some quick search links):

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=athen+airport

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=a ... los&m=text

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=E ... los&m=text

http://www.flickr.com/search/?w=all&q=s ... ort&m=text

You can get higher resolutions under actions/show all sizes...

Maybe http://picasa.google.de/ is also worth to have a look.

And some pictures here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athens_Int ... al_Airport

Hope that helps. Regards, Kai
PippinL
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Re: Next Airport?

Post by PippinL » Sun Nov 14, 2010 6:33 am

... and i forgot to mention the media stuff at Google Earth (Panoramio etc.). There are a lot of pictures! But i guess, you already know that... :D

Kai
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