Its Hard to Choose.....

[MD-Elf]

Dont really want to join in and pester the FT team, but lets just think about this logically. I've noticed a few of you asking for sceneries of airports which i've never heard of, so they must be local airports, for FT to make any significant profit, they need to do a scenery which appeals to a wide range of simmers, from around the world, not just where you live.

Some of the sceneries which have been mentioned need not be requested.

Bangkok VTBS - siamavsim is already near completion of VTBS 2008, and if you dont know who siamavsim is, they made the original VTBS 2006 freeware scenery which is now on avsim. So VTBS is crossed of the list.

Beijing - The screenshots above show a well in production scenery of Beijing intl so thats crossed of the list.

Hong Kong VHHH - Thomas Kwong has made a fantastic freeware, and i really dont think FT needs to do anouther version of VHHH, Thomas Kwongs version has very good textures, good buildings and its AES compatible. So thats crossed of the list.

Milan Malpensa - Similar situation to VHHH, amazing freeware scenery, AES compatible and did i mention its free? crossed of the list.

Toronto - There is a pretty decent freeware scenery of Toronto intl on avsim, its got decent textures, its AES compatible and its free, wouldnt it make sense to do anouther canadian airport? crossed of the list.

New York JFK - FSDreamTeam is doing it, simple as, its gunna be amazing, so why request FT to do it? crossed of the list.

Singapore - DING DING DING! we have a winner. Changi is in desperate need of a remake, Samsofts version is showing its age, and its very heavy on FPS, not to mention Changi has changed a lot since samsoft released their version. We have a candidate.

Vancouver - Anouther choice, there is a freeware scenery on avsim, but lets face it, its not very good, so vancouver is a candidate.

Las Vegas - It doest appeal to me, but, its in need of a remake, no scenery shows the airports glory. Anouther candidate.

Amsterdam - Cloud9's scenery is showing its age, and its a FPS monster, but, the scenery will do for now, so its not vital that its remade. Mind you, Aerosoft seems to be shooting european airports out frequently, and considering they've done heathrow, madrid, lisbon, and there about to do paris and stockholm, im sure amsterdam is on their mind.

Seoul - There is a freeware out, and its not amazing quality, so i guess seoul is candidate aswell.

Tokyo - I take it were talking about Narita, for me, it is in need of an upgrade. Overland's version of Narita is looking dated, and has terrible ground textures, so its a candidate.

Kansai - Doesnt need to be requested, overlands version is very good, the only negative is the ground textures which are quite bad to be honest.

Auckland - Im very suprised through my searches that noone has mentioned auckland intl airport, a major airport, which has only one scenery remake which was originally designed for FS2002 and is VERY dated. Clearly a candidate.

Other airports in the UK like Manchester and Gatwick are fine, UK2000 is doing a remake of Manchester, and Gatwick extreme is a decent scenery.

So the most logical sceneries which should be considered are:

1.Singapore Changi
2.Auckland
3.Tokyo Narita
4.Vancouver
5.Las Vegas
6.Seoul

However much i, and almost all of you want your request to be accepted and have the scenery of your choice be made, we all need to realise that its down to FT and what they decide THEY want to do.

So lets give them a break.

Guy

This guy is hilarious or just plain stupid, he disapproves most requests which is okay he can give his opinion, but then he gives his "most logical sceneries"

1. Singapore Changi (which is already "well" represented by Samsoft, Guy101's own standards of a good scenery that doesn't needs to be re-created)
3. Tokyo Narita (Oh VHHH and Malpensa are not out of date, just Narita?!)
5.Las Vegas (Already represented by Symflyers [which by your VTBS 2006, Toronto standards, Symflyers Vegas is awesome!])

Let FT choose a good money marker for them and a fun city with international presence for us simmers!

Your logic is a little off. Remember that there are two sims to choose from these days. You seem to pretty much just be speaking for the FS2004 guys. Personally I don't care what comes next because I know either way it'll be a quality product. Again, personally I think developers like FT are being generous by building for two sims. It wouldn't be hard to force people to upgrade to FSX by designing solely for it. Twice the work you know. Somehow I doubt Hong Kong would have taken 14 months to build if Martin didn't have to design two of them. Just a thought.

And definitely it wouldn't be so hard to force you to buy us the great computers that would eat the crappy FSX. See how simple we can make life as you do.

[skydvdan]

Your logic is a little off. Remember that there are two sims to choose from these days. You seem to pretty much just be speaking for the FS2004 guys. Personally I don't care what comes next because I know either way it'll be a quality product. Again, personally I think developers like FT are being generous by building for two sims. It wouldn't be hard to force people to upgrade to FSX by designing solely for it. Twice the work you know. Somehow I doubt Hong Kong would have taken 14 months to build if Martin didn't have to design two of them. Just a thought.

And definitely it wouldn't be so hard to force you to buy us the great computers that would eat the crappy FSX. See how simple we can make life as you do.

Why do I have to buy you a computer, this isn't hobo handout. Get a job. You're right, that was pretty simple.

[MD-Elf]

Your logic is a little off. Remember that there are two sims to choose from these days. You seem to pretty much just be speaking for the FS2004 guys. Personally I don't care what comes next because I know either way it'll be a quality product. Again, personally I think developers like FT are being generous by building for two sims. It wouldn't be hard to force people to upgrade to FSX by designing solely for it. Twice the work you know. Somehow I doubt Hong Kong would have taken 14 months to build if Martin didn't have to design two of them. Just a thought.

And definitely it wouldn't be so hard to force you to buy us the great computers that would eat the crappy FSX. See how simple we can make life as you do.

Why do I have to buy you a computer, this isn't hobo handout. Get a job. You're right, that was pretty simple.

Exactly I don't force you do anything, You don't force me to change to what I don't like. Therefore for your unfortunate wishes there will still be lots of FS9 months or even years to come, it's up to FT's business intelligence to stop creating FS9 sceneries.

[skydvdan]

And definitely it wouldn't be so hard to force you to buy us the great computers that would eat the crappy FSX. See how simple we can make life as you do.

Why do I have to buy you a computer, this isn't hobo handout. Get a job. You're right, that was pretty simple.

Exactly I don't force you do anything, You don't force me to change to what I don't like. Therefore for your unfortunate wishes there will still be lots of FS9 months or even years to come, it's up to FT's business intelligence to stop creating FS9 sceneries.

My point was that the public would get sceneries faster if companies only had to design for one sim. If you don't get that then I'm sorry. I'm not going to explain it again.

[paavo]

And definitely it wouldn't be so hard to force you to buy us the great computers that would eat the crappy FSX. See how simple we can make life as you do.

Why do I have to buy you a computer, this isn't hobo handout. Get a job. You're right, that was pretty simple.

Exactly I don't force you do anything, You don't force me to change to what I don't like. Therefore for your unfortunate wishes there will still be lots of FS9 months or even years to come, it's up to FT's business intelligence to stop creating FS9 sceneries.

Hi Gildahu.........................

[Guy101]

Ok, lets bring this flame fest back under control. MD-ELF, calling me plain stupid isnt gunna help the situation, what do you achieve from calling me that?

From what i've seen and heard other people say about sceneries, not just on the FT forums, just makes it seem more obvious that those seven sceneries i came up with are the most logical choice. Currently they seem like the sceneries which the majority of people would like to see done, with the exception of seoul and auckland, where not so many want to see a new scenery for those airports.

I am not telling FT to make them, i am not telling FT they must be done.

Im simply giving my opinion on the sceneries which seem to be in dire need of an overhaul.

Clearly your opinion differs from mine, so you have every right to state your opinion, but if its rude, could you keep it to yourself in the future please.

The reason i posted that reply is to be informative, for example, a few people want FT to do VTBS, and i just mentioned that an overhaul is on the way, so theres no need.

I wasnt dissaproving requests, just trying to help narrow the choices. I think, and im sure others will agree, that a selection of 5 or 10 airports is easier to pick from than a selection of 30 or 40 airports, especially if those 5 or 10 airports really do need a recreation.

Im trying to be helpful, and im trying to be nice!

By the way MD-ELF, a fun city with an international presence?

1.Singapore Changi
2.Auckland
3.Tokyo Narita
4.Vancouver
5.Las Vegas
6.Seoul

All of the above have an international presence, and singapore, seoul, narita and las vegas are clearly located in a FUN CITY, similar to the hustle and bustle of Hong Kong which as you know, FT recently made (Not to mention you called the scenery boring, nice way to insult FT after they slaved away 14 months to create it!)

Guy

[paavo]

I still have hope for Stapleton.

[Guy101]

Hope being the operative word in this thread.

Guy

[paavo]

I've been here a couple times irl, so I have hope for Belize Municipal also.

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[sinsnomwan]

Please make Beijing!! The T3 is stunning and very few payware Chinese airports are on sale, the beijing scenery from FT will change the world of FS.

[deltaboeing84]

Please make a full size Trampy and friends play house. Now that would be exciting...I'd never leave the house.

[altstiff]

P.S..

I havent seen any decent Canadian airports or canadian VFR EVER!!!

Look up CanUk and Flight Ontario at AVSIM. Freeware stuff and amazing to boot.

Dennis Difrancos CYYZ is also very well done...

[MD-Elf]

Ok, lets bring this flame fest back under control. MD-ELF, calling me plain stupid isnt gunna help the situation, what do you achieve from calling me that?

From what i've seen and heard other people say about sceneries, not just on the FT forums, just makes it seem more obvious that those seven sceneries i came up with are the most logical choice. Currently they seem like the sceneries which the majority of people would like to see done, with the exception of seoul and auckland, where not so many want to see a new scenery for those airports.

I am not telling FT to make them, i am not telling FT they must be done.

Im simply giving my opinion on the sceneries which seem to be in dire need of an overhaul.

Clearly your opinion differs from mine, so you have every right to state your opinion, but if its rude, could you keep it to yourself in the future please.

The reason i posted that reply is to be informative, for example, a few people want FT to do VTBS, and i just mentioned that an overhaul is on the way, so theres no need.

I wasnt dissaproving requests, just trying to help narrow the choices. I think, and im sure others will agree, that a selection of 5 or 10 airports is easier to pick from than a selection of 30 or 40 airports, especially if those 5 or 10 airports really do need a recreation.

Im trying to be helpful, and im trying to be nice!

By the way MD-ELF, a fun city with an international presence?

1.Singapore Changi
2.Auckland
3.Tokyo Narita
4.Vancouver
5.Las Vegas
6.Seoul

All of the above have an international presence, and singapore, seoul, narita and las vegas are clearly located in a FUN CITY, similar to the hustle and bustle of Hong Kong which as you know, FT recently made (Not to mention you called the scenery boring, nice way to insult FT after they slaved away 14 months to create it!)

Guy

Indeed I apologize. Honestly any new scenery would be great, In my opinion I think we need to see more Asian or possibly African sceneries. And for the record I did not say Kai Tak was boring at all, judging by all the amazing screenshots I've seen it looks splendid. For me it's all about realism in FS, so since Kai Tak has been closed that's why I choose not to buy the scenery as for me would be boring (unrealistic) to fly to any airport that has been closed or it's not in existence.

Hi Gildahu.........................

Hello Paavo, Gildahu? I sign up for the forum few weeks ago after I've read somewhere FlyTampa was creating a scenery, which I was very happy as I thought FlyTampa had stop creating sceneries, I was very disappointed as they choose VHHX and not VHHH, and that's the reason I sign up the forum to write my opinion about it, after seeing the so much positive receiving of VHHX seems to be a great money marker for FT. I guess that's good as it will encourage them to keep making more 5 stars sceneries. You are confusing me with someone else, and this is the second time. Now, please do not reply Gildalhu after every time I write as you are in error and really you do not know me. In Project Opensky's forum my username is FIN-MD11 and in Aerosoft's Yoan in case you ever read their forums. Just respect my opinions as of course they are just simply opinions and you don't have to take them seriously

[matanos]

Please make Beijing!! The T3 is stunning and very few payware Chinese airports are on sale, the beijing scenery from FT will change the world of FS.

I Like your words ... thank you , absolutly right !! FT Products Are great and high quality , and beijing is a masterpiece for them to make .... thank you in advanced . waiting to see some more photos ....- (the photos are of the beta testing of the FT Scenery or someone else) ?? but still I'm very impressed !
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