Awesome!

[jmb24]

You did a briljant job yet again! just like st maarten!! but i have done about 10 approaches now and i failed everytime....! is it because i need to use the rudder? cause i'm not using it and i don't know an easy way to use it accept for rudder paddles...

i'm flying an 747-200. anybody got some advice to land nicely without using the rudders?

[paavo]

If you have no rudder pedals then turn on autorudder.
If you are still have problems, do a few approaches with an easier plane like a Baron, then work your way up to a bigger plane.

[Misha_K]

Unless you are battling a serious crosswind, you don't need the rudder at all to fly this approach. It's just a matter of judging the turn properly and, in particular, coming out of it correctly.

[paavo]

Unless you are battling a serious crosswind, you don't need the rudder at all to fly this approach. It's just a matter of judging the turn properly and, in particular, coming out of it correctly.

You always need the rudder for coordinated turns, TC, where do you mess up at ? Are you off line when you striaghten out ?

[Misha_K]

Unless you are battling a serious crosswind, you don't need the rudder at all to fly this approach. It's just a matter of judging the turn properly and, in particular, coming out of it correctly.

You always need the rudder for coordinated turns, TC, where do you mess up at ? Are you off line when you striaghten out ?

On a large airliner, not really. You don't touch the rudder until over the threshold in a crosswind situation to line up the aircraft with the runway. In good weather, this approach is perfectly flyable without touching the rudder, even with something as large as the PMDG 744.

[_Dre_]

Unless you are battling a serious crosswind, you don't need the rudder at all to fly this approach. It's just a matter of judging the turn properly and, in particular, coming out of it correctly.

You always need the rudder for coordinated turns, TC, where do you mess up at ? Are you off line when you striaghten out ?

On a large airliner, not really. You don't touch the rudder until over the threshold in a crosswind situation to line up the aircraft with the runway. In good weather, this approach is perfectly flyable without touching the rudder, even with something as large as the PMDG 744.

I think you are mistaking the rudder for something else. The aircraft will not turn an inch without using the rudder (unless using differential thrust as a last resort). Simply using just aeilerons will just roll the aircraft (fighter jet style). A coordinated turn just like Paavo said requires aeileron and measured rudder inputs.

You can tell your turn is coordinated by centering the ball in the middle section (bottom of the attitude indicator).