Where is the next scenery???

tors
Posts: 36

Post by tors » Sun May 04, 2008 3:19 pm

WEAJHD wrote:
AFA3718 wrote:I have debating whether or not to buy TNCM, but if there was a KDFW scenery, that would be great. KDFW has, since the release of FSX and FS9, gotten a new terminal, D to be exact, that is used by every major international carrier that flies into it. I would greatly appreciate if this could possibly become a future release.

Thanks,
Chase
Considering that FSDreamteam will make KDFW as their next project, i really doubt Flytampa will start one.

I hope they'll consider BIKF, keflavik, Iceland :)
I totally agree!! :D

Þórður Þ. Sigurjónsson
Keflavík, Iceland
Sebastianboeing
Posts: 11

Post by Sebastianboeing » Sun May 04, 2008 3:29 pm

come on KSFB :P
Icelandair757
Posts: 7

Post by Icelandair757 » Sun May 04, 2008 9:26 pm

Keflavik (BIKF) all the waaaaaaaaaaaaay. No plans for changes at BIKF in the near future :D
MidgeyMidget2
Posts: 1235

Post by MidgeyMidget2 » Sun May 04, 2008 9:41 pm

Under Water Base
AFA3718
Posts: 8

Post by AFA3718 » Sun May 04, 2008 9:56 pm

Mars Landing Site
skydvdan
Posts: 2121

Post by skydvdan » Mon May 05, 2008 12:01 am

On the surface of the sun?
_Dre_
Posts: 302

Post by _Dre_ » Mon May 05, 2008 10:49 am

Hey George or Martin please, please, please it would be awesome if you could make the Asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

How did this go from a "do developers step on each other's toes and is there anywhere good left in North America to create thread" to a f*^#ing request thread. Now I'm never one to bash people's friggin requests but even I wasn't this bad as a noob. Next time you friggin ticks go start your own request threads *so it can get the proper treatment* instead of 'jacking a half decent topic. I'm gonna stop my freakin rant now before I smack one of you noobs.

Oh yeah don't forget the asteroid belt Flytampa, it would sell like hotcakes and it's never been done.
deltaboeing84
Posts: 368

Post by deltaboeing84 » Mon May 05, 2008 3:14 pm

_Dre_ wrote:Hey George or Martin please, please, please it would be awesome if you could make the Asteroid belt between Mars and Jupiter.

How did this go from a "do developers step on each other's toes and is there anywhere good left in North America to create thread" to a f*^#ing request thread. Now I'm never one to bash people's friggin requests but even I wasn't this bad as a noob. Next time you friggin ticks go start your own request threads *so it can get the proper treatment* instead of 'jacking a half decent topic. I'm gonna stop my freakin rant now before I smack one of you noobs.

Oh yeah don't forget the asteroid belt Flytampa, it would sell like hotcakes and it's never been done.

Couldn't have said it better myself. Dang ticks, if ya'll want sceneries so bad, make em' your own damn self. If I had people request stuff like this all the time and I made sceneries, hell, i'd close shop and make em' for myself.
mackintosh
Posts: 38

Post by mackintosh » Mon May 12, 2008 6:28 am

I don't think there's really much in the US left to develop (that would result in a high volume of sales, that's where the key is - unless it would be developed purely out of personal preference/need and then sold on the side).

FSD have taken ORD and set their sights on JFK and DFW. It'll be fun to watch the s*storm of support problems that JFK will attract given FS9's (and I suppose FSX's as well?) less than stellar performance in the area. Although, admittedly, ORD is behaving nicely, even with MDW not that far away. Alas, this isn't about the performance of FSD's sceneries...

So, at at end of the day, we come to the issue of economics...sure, it's great to make small (or mid-size) boutique airports, but as far as the US mainland is concerned, I think all the potential motherloads have already been struck and all the bases are pretty much covered (especially with Imaginesim "taking out" some long overdue airports as well).

Sure, someone could revisit PHX or LAS, but the old Simflyers offerings are still holding up ok. They're obviously not anywhere near the quality of flytampa or FSD, but they don't look excessively dated yet either. I suppose there would be some potential for PHL, but personally I would not fly there, unless it was an absolute beauty of a scenery (like PVD, which I visit from time to time even though I rarely have any virtual business there).

As much as we'd all love to have our favourite airports modeled in FS9 or FSX (I've been waiting for a payware rendition of my home of EPWA since, like, forever, but everyone always forgets about Poland :P), there's only really a small selection of those that have the potential of recouping development costs and making a few bucks for the devs (I'm looking at you LAX, FRA and LHR, how many times have those three been remade?).

I'm pretty sure Martin and George have to find the right balance between what is still left on the American domestic pie and what makes financial sense to commit a better part of a year's worth of life to. And, like I've already hopefully said, there's really not that much of that pie left.

Having spewed all that drivel, I'll still buy whatever they dish out as long as one major airline flies there (since I primarily fly heavy metal). Flytampa's sceneries are famous for their immaculate attention to detail and incredible performance, I'll gladly spend my money on it :)
Dubstar
Posts: 15

Post by Dubstar » Mon May 12, 2008 7:03 am

mackintosh wrote:I don't think there's really much in the US left to develop (that would result in a high volume of sales, that's where the key is - unless it would be developed purely out of personal preference/need and then sold on the side).
This is not solely aimed at FT, I'm just wondering why no quality developer has ever touched PANC.

I doubt that the sales perspective would look bad, with PANC being one major important cargo hub for many airlines and situated within a dramatic scenery.

More major airports badly neglected would be CYVR and CYUL.
Dubstar
Posts: 15

Post by Dubstar » Mon May 12, 2008 7:06 am

edit: double post
mackintosh
Posts: 38

Post by mackintosh » Mon May 12, 2008 7:22 am

Dubstar wrote: This is not solely aimed at FT, I'm just wondering why no quality developer has ever touched PANC.

I doubt that the sales perspective would look bad, with PANC being one major important cargo hub for many airlines and situated within a dramatic scenery.

More major airports badly neglected would be CYVR and CYUL.
I think that's the problem, there's not that many freight dogs around. To be honest, I haven't seen that many requests for PANC in all those years that I've been simming. Of course that might be due to the fact that I have no interest in cargo hauling myself :) If you take cargo out of the equation however, PANC doesn't really have that much going for it in terms of a broad appeal, at least it doesn't seem that way to me. Especially when you factor in the widespread piracy in the FS world, judging by what I've read on various developer and publisher forums. It does seem to me that it would take a very sought after airfield to make money on it. The larger developers/publishers who often release smaller airports (Aerosoft for example) can usually offset any losses due to piracy and have some other high-yielding products absorb some of those costs. When it comes to smaller devs, piracy does take out a significant share of the potential profit. It would be natural then to go after those airports that could potentially yield the highest sales. Of course this discussion is speculative and academic. We'll never know the sales figures for any of the sceneries and we truly have no idea as to piracy's impact on this particular niche.

Agreed on YVR, I'm pretty sure that could be an airport of interest to quite a few simmers. Same goes for Pearson, the Simflyers rendition is an age-old, crudely designed FPS killer and while there's a nice freeware alternative, it simply doesn't cut it (IMHO) when it comes to a major international airfield.
Dubstar
Posts: 15

Post by Dubstar » Tue May 13, 2008 2:19 pm

mackintosh wrote: Same goes for Pearson, the Simflyers rendition is an age-old, crudely designed FPS killer and while there's a nice freeware alternative, it simply doesn't cut it (IMHO) when it comes to a major international airfield.
Oh, I love the rendition by Dennis DiFranco. In fact I emailed him and asked whether I can donate some money to him but he rejected the offer by saying that his CYYZ project is dedicated to the community. Maybe I should ask him if he's got a new project coming along :o
mackintosh
Posts: 38

Post by mackintosh » Tue May 13, 2008 2:45 pm

Dubstar wrote: Oh, I love the rendition by Dennis DiFranco. In fact I emailed him and asked whether I can donate some money to him but he rejected the offer by saying that his CYYZ project is dedicated to the community. Maybe I should ask him if he's got a new project coming along :o
Yeah, I think I may have come across as a bit brutish in my assessment of Dennis' scenery, don't get me wrong, it's a great scenery, but Pearson (among others) deserves something of flytampa's quality :) But yeah, the freeware rendition is top notch as far as freebies are concerned :)
Post Reply