Hi guys,
I'm new here. I have bought the St. Maarten Scenery. It's wonderful i like it! But i would have, more traffic on my airport. I have only the standard Microsoft Traffic.
I have downloaded the WOAI and Flightplans of KLM. I have worked with TTools to compile the files. After than i was at Juliana Airport, for waiting the arrive of KLM. I mean Friday and Sunday have KLM Flights? But i don't see any KLM Machine. Do you have some ideas?
Can you tell me: What i need exactly , for have some AI Traffic like on the screenshots? (Freeware Programs and more...)
Thank you!
Regards Marco
AI Traffic St. Maarten
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If you're new to AI as well, as you obviously are, you probably don't realize just what a can of worms you're opening. If you want AI and you are happy to get it as real as you can, you have a lot of work ahead.
Maybe the best thing you could do just to get St Maarten going would be to analyze what airlines use the airport (maybe the Wikipedia has a guide to this) and then go sourcing repaints, airplane models and flightplans for all those airlines. Compile them and voila, you should have a pretty representative St Maarten working.
AAL, USA, AFR, KLM, LIA/Carib Star, Winair, Anguilla Express, Carib Aviation, Caribbean Wings (Navajos), Caribbean Airlines (ex BWIA), Westjet, COA, Insel Air ... well, I'm not gonna name them all but you get my drift. Do some research on what airlines you need to set up, source the plans, identify the airline repaints and models you need to set up those plans. Install the models, add the textures, incorporate the planes into those plans. Its complicated the first few times you do this, but if you're serious about AI you'll make the thing work.
Also, if you're serious about AI you really need to be asking on boards such as Project AI, Evolve AI or reading the various tutorials on setting up AI airlines in flightsim - not really here on the scenery designer's website. Martin provided the cake, but you'll get the icing someplace else.
Oh, and you'll want to be rid of the default MS traffic soonest. For best results choose repaints based on the models from EvolveAI (eg Airbus single-aisle), FSPainter (eg Airbus widebody) and AI Aardvark (pretty much all the Boeings). Also Dee Waldron, Henry Tomkiewicz, Charles Dayhuff for much of the exotics that add the real flavor. These models are particularly suitable because they get the best visual results for the smallest "polycount". As ytou read further into the subject, as I assume you will, you'll see that the fewer polygons FS has to render for each plane, the more time it has available to render the other planes, including yours, and the scenery too. These efficient models mean you can have 100 A320s flying about with minimal impact and a smoother flying experience of your own.
Like I said, its a can of worms!
Maybe the best thing you could do just to get St Maarten going would be to analyze what airlines use the airport (maybe the Wikipedia has a guide to this) and then go sourcing repaints, airplane models and flightplans for all those airlines. Compile them and voila, you should have a pretty representative St Maarten working.
AAL, USA, AFR, KLM, LIA/Carib Star, Winair, Anguilla Express, Carib Aviation, Caribbean Wings (Navajos), Caribbean Airlines (ex BWIA), Westjet, COA, Insel Air ... well, I'm not gonna name them all but you get my drift. Do some research on what airlines you need to set up, source the plans, identify the airline repaints and models you need to set up those plans. Install the models, add the textures, incorporate the planes into those plans. Its complicated the first few times you do this, but if you're serious about AI you'll make the thing work.
Also, if you're serious about AI you really need to be asking on boards such as Project AI, Evolve AI or reading the various tutorials on setting up AI airlines in flightsim - not really here on the scenery designer's website. Martin provided the cake, but you'll get the icing someplace else.
Oh, and you'll want to be rid of the default MS traffic soonest. For best results choose repaints based on the models from EvolveAI (eg Airbus single-aisle), FSPainter (eg Airbus widebody) and AI Aardvark (pretty much all the Boeings). Also Dee Waldron, Henry Tomkiewicz, Charles Dayhuff for much of the exotics that add the real flavor. These models are particularly suitable because they get the best visual results for the smallest "polycount". As ytou read further into the subject, as I assume you will, you'll see that the fewer polygons FS has to render for each plane, the more time it has available to render the other planes, including yours, and the scenery too. These efficient models mean you can have 100 A320s flying about with minimal impact and a smoother flying experience of your own.
Like I said, its a can of worms!
Or if like me you want the easy way out 
or don't have the time to set up your ai to cover the whole world, then pony up a little cash and go payware with programs like Traffic 2005, Ultimate traffic, My traffic, etc.
It comes down to a simple choice:
1) Take the time (alot of time) and mess with the can of worms and when u are finished u will be highly satisfied and have a sense of accomplishment (and it's free).
2) Go payware, get your download instantly or your disc in a couple of days, easy install and voilla
traffic everywhere without much work , even military traffic too not just civilian.
I must say though, oddly enough the better looking aircraft models are the freeware ones (there's something a bit funky about that equation).
PS- Does anyone know if u can switch the models of traffic 2005 with those pretty freeware ones from WOAI, ai aardvark, etc?
or don't have the time to set up your ai to cover the whole world, then pony up a little cash and go payware with programs like Traffic 2005, Ultimate traffic, My traffic, etc.It comes down to a simple choice:
1) Take the time (alot of time) and mess with the can of worms and when u are finished u will be highly satisfied and have a sense of accomplishment (and it's free).
2) Go payware, get your download instantly or your disc in a couple of days, easy install and voilla
traffic everywhere without much work , even military traffic too not just civilian.I must say though, oddly enough the better looking aircraft models are the freeware ones (there's something a bit funky about that equation).
PS- Does anyone know if u can switch the models of traffic 2005 with those pretty freeware ones from WOAI, ai aardvark, etc?
I'm mainly a "lurker" here at FlyTampa, as you can see from my post count, but...I love AI so I just had to chime in.
I attacked the AI issue using a combination of what Mage and _DRE_ suggest. I purchased Ultimate Traffic a while ago and found that to be a good "starting" point.
Then, for example, when I purchased FlyTampa - Seattle I researched every airline that services the airport, found repaints and flightplans and setup AI for each airline. (You can disable airlines in Ultimate Traffic so you don't have duplicate flights all over the place.)
The nice thing about doing it this way is that you start with some decent traffic levels but, as you set up airlines like KLM, United, Alaksa, etc. you're covering quite a few airports and getting, in my opinion, but better traffic coverage.
AI becomes quite addictive though, so watch out. I'm doing a bunch of regional Australian airlines right now. Sometimes I go through phases where I don't really fly for a few weeks at a time...but I just set up new airlines constantly and "plane spot". With tools such as AFCAD and Traffic Tools, along with the many offerings of repaints and flight plans out there, you can easily get lost in AI (what a great community the flight sim group is).
Start with Juliana...then, before you know it, you'll be wanting to do Chicago O'Hare.
Good Luck!
And, _Dre_, if you decompile your Payware traffic plan using Traffic Tools you should be able to switch your aircraft to the freeware models. Although, it would probably be easier just to create new traffic files for each airline.
I attacked the AI issue using a combination of what Mage and _DRE_ suggest. I purchased Ultimate Traffic a while ago and found that to be a good "starting" point.
Then, for example, when I purchased FlyTampa - Seattle I researched every airline that services the airport, found repaints and flightplans and setup AI for each airline. (You can disable airlines in Ultimate Traffic so you don't have duplicate flights all over the place.)
The nice thing about doing it this way is that you start with some decent traffic levels but, as you set up airlines like KLM, United, Alaksa, etc. you're covering quite a few airports and getting, in my opinion, but better traffic coverage.
AI becomes quite addictive though, so watch out. I'm doing a bunch of regional Australian airlines right now. Sometimes I go through phases where I don't really fly for a few weeks at a time...but I just set up new airlines constantly and "plane spot". With tools such as AFCAD and Traffic Tools, along with the many offerings of repaints and flight plans out there, you can easily get lost in AI (what a great community the flight sim group is).
Start with Juliana...then, before you know it, you'll be wanting to do Chicago O'Hare.
Good Luck!
And, _Dre_, if you decompile your Payware traffic plan using Traffic Tools you should be able to switch your aircraft to the freeware models. Although, it would probably be easier just to create new traffic files for each airline.
Hi Dre,_Dre_ wrote: PS- Does anyone know if u can switch the models of traffic 2005 with those pretty freeware ones from WOAI, ai aardvark, etc?
this is actually quite an easy thing to do:
- Install the AIA, EvolveAI aircraft you would like to see in FS.
- Open the aircraft.cfg file of the Traffic 2005 aircraft you want to replace.
- Look for the following lines of the livery you want to replace
[fltsim.0]
title=JFAi_B757_BR
- Copy and rename the lines for example like this
[fltsim.0]
title=JFAi_B757_BR_b
- Paste (overwrite) the 'title' line into the aircraft.cfg file of you freeware AIA model for the corresponding repaint.
- Without the need to change flightplans or recompile your traffic, FS will now load your freeware AIA model instead of the traffic 2005 model.
The good thing about this, is you don't need to replace your traffic 2005 models all at once! You can go one by one, when you have some time.
Regards,
Sylvain
The Aardvark EVAI and other models are better-looking and lower-poly (thus more efficient) because the author's main purpose was to make a drop-dead gorgeous representation of the plane. With respect to the payware versions, their ethos was "churn 'em out" - they couldn't put the same TLC into each model. For people that want instant gratification that would be the way to go - even though the schedules aren't great either. At least you see traffic from the get go._Dre_ wrote:I must say though, oddly enough the better looking aircraft models are the freeware ones (there's something a bit funky about that equation).
I started out with AI when there was really just PAI around, Aardvark wasn't on the scene then, and Missi (FSPainter) was the "other" low-poly modeller out there. I didn't have the option of "just add water" traffic packages.
I put a lot of work into cutting my teeth on BA and Air France, just to see what this AI "thing" was about, and I loved visiting CDG and LHR so much that I simply got on putting the other majors in there. Thinking that I'd stop when I reached the end of the list of flag carriers I did them all, then got sucked in to the charter ones too ... then the GA.
Ultimate GA did some good packages for the BBJs and Gulfstreams etc but they've been quiet a while now.
AI is a whole scene in itself, for some folks I think that means not even flying, just visiting airports virtually.
Hey Sylvain thanks alot for the info. If only I knew it was that simple. I just finished replacing my jetblue fleet and just got started on AA. For anyone doing the same thing be carefull with airlines that have a wide variety of schemes (jetblue, British, frontier, etc.) because u have to replace each tail/color scheme individually. By the way, am I the only one that spends way more time tweaking and installing stuff rather than flying?
PS- Hey Marco did u decide what u are going to do for your ai yet?
PS- Hey Marco did u decide what u are going to do for your ai yet?
