features on and off?

jmoss · Post by **jmoss** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:13 am

Hello, first off the scenery is ALIVE finally!!! KSEA needed this from day one. Great job! However, my performance is not real good with any complex add-on with my system. I will post my specs below if you can make any suggestions for me, that would be most appreciated. The main reason for my post... If I did not check the static AC or animated traffic during installation. Is there a way to turn this on without having to unistall and reinstall all over again? OK, here are my specs:
AMD 2800XP+barton, ASUS A7N8X DLX MB, win2000pro, Nvidia6800gt AGP, 1.5 gigs dual CH ddr ram pc3200, 550watt pwr supply. Scenery dense, autogen normal, AI 20%, Mipmap 4, fsenviroment with dxt clouds on, render to texture on, UT USA (roads on only). performance EX: Aeroworx B200 -10fps studdering, PMDG1900c -10-15 fps. some are better and some much worse. I have too many to list and I don't want to waste your time. I just listed the least complex of them. I do have Rhode Island scenery installed and thought this would be about the same as that. Of course, I don't know what the difference is from a modeling standpoint. I thought I would kill two birds with one stone here. Most of all, I am just looking for a suggestion how to improve the performance on my system with Fly Tampa KSEA. This scenery has got WOW FACTOR all over it, and I would like to use my complex AC too. I hope you can help with both of my questions. Best regards, Jeff

RegentAir · Post by **RegentAir** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 1:28 am

well your board and prcess or are REAL close to min A7n8x straight and a 2400 CPU 1.5 Gig ram and a 256 card. however i have win XP pro 2000 as I recall is not super game friendly, have you thought about a OS upgrade I'm getting decent fps here at SEA with near full AI and PMDG birds runnign about 23-26 FPS depending

Post by **martin[flytampa]** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 2:01 am

To enable and disable features at Seattle and any other FlyTampa scenery you simply have to re-run the installation program, select the same destination folder as previously installed and change the options on the components page during installation.

The best way to see what performance you could get out of Seattle or any other location is to load the default scenery prior or after installing the addon and disabling it again. All our tests indicate that Fly-Seattle has a minus 2 to 4 fps impact maximum over the default KSEA. Off course you have to run this test with AI traffic disabled to be sure. If the default KSEA runs much faster (more then 2 to 4 fps higher) then what you get with Fly-Seattle something might be wrong.

jmoss · Post by **jmoss** » Mon Aug 22, 2005 10:07 am

Hey guys, thanks for the info. I will do some digging today and see what's going on. I know the default KSEA is a more demanding airport. I am seeing worse now. There must be something wrong. I will let you know how I make out. Best regards, Jeff

jmoss · Post by **jmoss** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:10 am

Well, no luck. could a bgl file or something cause bad performace issues?
Am I the only one in the entire FS9 community having lousy performance with this scenery? I keep reading the rants and raves how great KSEA performance is. I am ready to throw my system off a ten story building.

Is my system that bad?? Before I uncheck this scenery in the add-on scenery folder for now, can you be so kind to tell me what might be left to try? I was at it all day trying to get KSEA smooth with out the dreaded serious strobing and studdering. The default AC are ok, but if I dare try the Majestic Dash8-300, or the FLT1 ATR72-500, I'm finished.
I kind of wish I never saw this scenery. Once you have it, you never want to go back! You guys really did a amazing job. Anyway, I am out of ideas right now. Thanks again. Best regards, Jeff

Post by **martin[flytampa]** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 1:28 am

jmoss: If its more a matter of stutters than the fps counter itself that usually means that the systems isn't able to handle the textures very well.... and using highly detailed aircraft can add a lot of textures on top of what the scenery already uses. Either it is releoading textures from the harddisk which might need to be defragged or isn't fast enough... or the graphics card isn't "strong" enough and/or doens't have enough RAM itself... or the system just can't transfer the texture data fast enough to the gfx card.

You can over-install the scenery without Animations, without static vehicles to see how much that helps. There are no single BGLs within the scenery which would explain a slowdown.

jmoss · Post by **jmoss** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:01 am

Hey Martin, thanks for your prompt reply. I do defrag all the time. My specs are in my first post of this thread. Anyway, I guess it's that time for me to take a few days to upgrade and the dreaded reinstall of all my add-ons. I am not looking forward to that because I am not the best record keeper for keys and such. I think a 64bit 3200 or 3500 AMD is in order. Just have to find the time to do this. Or better yet, win the lottery and have a turnkey system

Wishfull thinking. Thanks again. I will keep you posted. Best regards, Jeff

Post by **martin[flytampa]** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:07 am

George got one of these AMD64 beasts and even upgrading from a ~3Ghz Pentium the speed increase is amazing.

Post by **george[flytampa]** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:19 am

Good luck Jeff. These AMDs are sweet little speed whores

I think it could well be Win2000 that is causing all your grief.

jmoss · Post by **jmoss** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:41 am

Good morning, I am starting to think it's Win2000 as well. When I get the 64, XP is a must anyway. I am not looking back. I want to thank you again for all of your help. If it weren't for Fly Tampa, I would have let this go another few months, and that is three months too long. Best regards, Jeff

aarskringspier · Post by **aarskringspier** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:45 am

george[flytampa] wrote:Good luck Jeff. These AMDs are sweet little speed whores

I think it could well be Win2000 that is causing all your grief.

Im glad to hear that Im building a AMD system now will be my first one, really anxious to get it going.

RegentAir · Post by **RegentAir** » Tue Aug 23, 2005 2:05 pm

for all you guys build the speed freaks (AKA AMD64's) you might really want to look at your cooling; AMD's as you may know run alot warmer! ever since I switched to water cooling i've noticed my system runs better

yeah I know what your gonna say water & electronics don't mix, try KOOLANCE ehehe I have one case now and getting another here in the not to far off for the new speed freak i'm building. Love it to death runs quiet, does a bang up job of keeping the machine cool and in a SERIOUS jam you can (not recommended) even use Antifreeze!
* note this will void the warranty!