How do you close Runway 31 so All Traffic Flies the IGS?

SSSCLimitedTrademark · Post by **SSSCLimitedTrademark** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:45 pm

Hello folks, and thank you for the wonderfully designed and rendered scenery.

One thing that kind of bothers me with FlyTampa's Kai Tak scenery is the fact that my AI traffic will not fly the IGS 13 approach into Kai Tak unless it is a day that is extremely cloudy and hazy all around. I used to use the 9Dragons Kai Tak Scenery, and they had several different afcad scenarios available such as AF2_9Dragons_Rwy31Closed.bgl and others, so that the AI traffic would always fly the great IGS approach, regardless of weather and wind patterns.

I have read in previous posts of this support forum that the approach afcads are the same as the ones the 9Dragons developer put in, but are re-named. Is it possible for me to re-name the AF2_9Dragons_Rwy31Closed.bgl to af2_VHHX.bgl, and have the AI always fly the IGS approach?

Thanks for your help.

~ Cheers, Steve.

paavo · Post by **paavo** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:51 pm

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jvile · Post by **jvile** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:59 pm

Thanks Paavo

I was about to link the same post

I have read in previous posts of this support forum that the approach afcads are the same as the ones the 9Dragons developer put in, but are re-named. Is it possible for me to re-name the AF2_9Dragons_Rwy31Closed.bgl to af2_VHHX.bgl, and have the AI always fly the IGS approach?

Contrary to popular belief none of the approach code and AFCAD's are the same between 9Dragons and FlyTampa. You cannot use one from one scenery and add it to another scenery.

If you try and use 9Dragons AFCAD and approach files the ground behavior and Approach code for both the User and AI Plane will become distorted /corrupt. Also there are elevation differences that will cause contact of wheels to be different when rolling along the textures.

Loquito4Fly · Post by **Loquito4Fly** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:01 pm

that was the first thing i did when i installed the sceneries LOL close rwy 31

paavo · Post by **paavo** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:08 pm

Here is the simple way:

1 Use real world weather, 13 is almost always the active runway.
2. If you don't want to use real weather, set the winds before you load a flight so 13 is active

SSSCLimitedTrademark · Post by **SSSCLimitedTrademark** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:15 pm

I downloaded Martin's replacement Afcad for VHHX, I will test later to see if Runway 13 will always be in use. Perhaps future updates can include more than one Afcad file for users wanting different approaches.

~ Cheers, Steve.

Edit: Martin's replacement Afcad does not work. I would like to have a Runway 31 Closed afcad, if possible. Can this be done?

paavo · Post by **paavo** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:28 pm

SSSCLimitedTrademark wrote:I downloaded Martin's replacement Afcad for VHHX, I will test later to see if Runway 13 will always be in use. Perhaps future updates can include more than one Afcad file for users wanting different approaches.

~ Cheers, Steve.

Edit: Martin's replacement Afcad does not work. I would like to have a Runway 31 Closed afcad, if possible. Can this be done?

jvile wrote:You can never close runway 31 completely in either FS9 or the FSX version. MS uses a scoring system that determines which runway end is the active.

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SSSCLimitedTrademark · Post by **SSSCLimitedTrademark** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:53 pm

Allright, then how did 9Dragons manage it?

When I inserted their AF2_Runway31_Closed.bgl, any day, any time, any weather, all AI aircraft landed with the IGS 13 approach.

Your quote there is simply false.

paavo · Post by **paavo** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:56 pm

SSSCLimitedTrademark wrote:Allright, then how did 9Dragons manage it?

When I inserted their AF2_Runway31_Closed.bgl, any day, any time, any weather, all AI aircraft landed with the IGS 13 approach.

Your quote there is simply false.

You'll have to wait for Jim Vile, that is his quote and not mine. Did you read his entire post in that link ?

Post by **martin[flytampa]** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 6:09 pm

I looked at 9Dragon's AF2_9D_VHHX_31Closed.bgl

All I can see is runway 31 properties for edited and closed for landings and takeoff Checkmarked. 31 Start location as well as ILS is present.

Make sure you are not loading saved flights but create a new one a VHHX for the Afcad changes to kick in.

SSSCLimitedTrademark · Post by **SSSCLimitedTrademark** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:07 pm

Allright, I'd like to edit the FlyTampa VHHX afcad to check-box the close for takeoff and landings at runway 31. Can I get the name of this program off of you?

~ Cheers, Steve.

Post by **martin[flytampa]** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:15 pm

Afcad 2.11

http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DL ... CatID=root

Note that in the replacement Afcad posted above I already applied the change of checkmarking these 2 boxes.

Clutch-Cargo · Post by **Clutch-Cargo** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 10:42 pm

Just to confirm, that is exactly what I did and just created a couple of different AFCADs base on which runway I wanted open. Saved them with different, descriptive names. Simple yet effective.

Clutch
9Dragons

SSSCLimitedTrademark · Post by **SSSCLimitedTrademark** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 11:59 pm

martin[flytampa] wrote:Note that in the replacement Afcad posted above I already applied the change of checkmarking these 2 boxes.

When I checked the Runway Properties of your modified VHHX afcad, none of the boxes were checked. I re-checked them, started up FS, and now all the AI traffic fly the IGS approach. You might want to check your upload, Martin. But thanks for all the information!

~ Cheers, Steve.