Huge problems with Copenhagen XP11 - surrounding area and city

[lhc7664]

Hello,

First of all - thanks for a beautiful recreation of Copenhagen Airport for X Plane! Really appreciated, and I'm looking much forward to fly in and out of this great airport!
However before that's gonna happen, there's a few things I'd like to fix.

I have Ortho4xp + SimHaevens X-Europe installed.
I've used the FlyTampa tool to generate a tile for Ortho4xp that works with the scenery as instructed.

Now the problem is that the city looks completely ridiculous - Houses everywhere, roads everywhere, ground that goes up and down (hills), trees everywhere - everything on top of each other. I highly doubt that's how FlyTampa recreated the city of Copenhagen?

I've disabled my Ortho4xp tiles, disabled X-Europe, played around with the scenery.ini entries to see if anything helps. No success so far.

If I disable the FlyTampa scenery I have the beautiful X-Europe representation of Copenhagen with the Central Trainstation, Tivoli Gardens with the rollercoaster, Glass Hall Theater, the Town Hall Square and builing, Rundetaarn, Parken, Rigshospitalet, The Lakes and much, much more.

Also there's no traffic on the Oresund Bridge. Is that supposed to be empty?

Hope anyone can help so I can truly enjoy flying in Denmark again. :)

[emilios[flytampa]]

Can you please post some shots and your scenery order from scenery_packs.ini?

Oresund traffic is included via the Ground traffic plugin. If you are using Vulkan, traffic may not be visible since the plugin is not compatible, although someone mentioned about it being updated here viewtopic.php?p=68012#p68012

[lhc7664]

Here's my scenery.ini entries. I do not use Vulkan, so guess something else is interferring with the ground traffic on the bridge?


SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_city/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_1overlays/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_2Photoreal/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Photopolys4Flytampa_+55+012/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_3Mesh/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/c Global Airports/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d EXT_denmark_lights/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d LOWI Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d VFR-Objects_GK_+53+009_D_Hamburg 2.1/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/d X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-1-vfr+corr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x Airport Environment HD/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x MisterX_Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/x OpenSceneryX/
SCENERY_PACK C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Ortho4XP\yOrtho4XP_Overlays/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+36+030/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+010/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+011/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+012/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+51+006/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+53+009/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+53+010/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+008/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+009/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+012/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_uhd_global_scenery4/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzzz_hd_global_scenery4/

[Yannis[flytampa]]

Hi, the best way generally in scenery_pack.ini is to have organized your folders with meshes at the bottom, overlays + libraries in the middle and airports at the top.
In your case, flytampa's mesh folder overrides all overlays below ( Xeurope). So you should keep Flytampa_Copenhagen_3Mesh folder very low ( I suggest with other ortho4xp tiles), since all these are meshes
So this order in your scenery pack would solve your copenhagen's city issue...

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_city/
-----
-------
other airports
------
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_1overlays/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-1-vfr+corr/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-2-regions/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-3-extras/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-4-forests/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-5-scenery/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-6-autogen/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/v simHeaven_X-Europe-7-network/
------
other overlays and libraries
-------

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_2Photoreal/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Photopolys4Flytampa_+55+012/
---other drapped polygons if any
---
---
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_3Mesh/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+36+030/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+010/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+011/
-----
other meshes
----

[larsras]

You use X-Europe. There seems to be a clash here in a number of places.
In a minimal setup: XP11.50b6, SAM, OSX, XE4.5 and then FT EKCH v2 I see:
- Øresunds bridge doubled
- Roads crossing taxiways.
Haven't looked for other collisions.

[morst]

Thank you Yannis!!! Had the same problem and after editing .ini file CPH looks great!!!
Regards Morten
Ps. Please make more Europe scenery for Xp. Next to buy is Athens 😊

[lhc7664]

Thank you so much Yannis for your explanation! It did not help however, so trying to play around and see if i find a solution.

Can someone post a screenshot of Copenhagen city centre just so i know what it´s supposed to look like?
Is it possible that there are no custom buildings at all?

[Yannis[flytampa]]

The scenery covers Amager island, not the city's center

[lhc7664]

I've removed xEurope completely from the Custom Scenery folder, disabled all ortho sceneries, removed FT Copenhagen and reinstalled it without any other scenery for the Copenhagen area. Still problems.

First of all, no traffic on the bridge. When I zoom in on the road before the tunnel all cars seem to be underneath the road which appears to be transparent?

Second, many of the roads appears to be green in color - something that could indicate some other scenery are over/under?
Also i noticed the metro train line from Oerestad seems to be missing? In real life it's above ground in that area and I recall seeing it like so on a photo or video somewhere from the FT scenery?

I've arranged the entries in the .INI as advised. (And been trying all sort of combinations btw. to see if that would have an effect)

[Yannis[flytampa]]

A screenshot or two with you scenery_pack.ini again, would help to figure things out.
About traffic... do you see any around the airport or at the aprons?

[lhc7664]

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_city/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EBBR Brussels/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LSGG Genf/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Airport Environment HD/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/MisterX_Library/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/OpenSceneryX/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/VFR-Objects_GK_+53+009_D_Hamburg 2.1/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_1overlays/
SCENERY_PACK C:\Users\Admin\Desktop\Ortho4XP\yOrtho4XP_Overlays/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_2Photoreal/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+010/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+011/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+36+030/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+010/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+011/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+48+012/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+51+006/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+53+009/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+53+010/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+008/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+009/
SCENERY_PACK_DISABLED Custom Scenery/zOrtho4XP_+55+012/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_3Mesh/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_uhd_global_scenery4/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/zzz_hd_global_scenery4/

I have traffic around the airport, I think the traffic for the bridge though are following the xPlane default bridge. Cars seem to disappear under the roads different places. As if the ground is transparent. Not only on the bridge, but many ''ghost'' cars around Amager.

[Yannis[flytampa]]

Ok thanx.. can you try to place this time Flytampa_Copenhagen_1overlays/ just below the city’s folder? Please upload a screenshot to see how the airport area appears

[lhc7664]

So, I ended up uninstalling xPlane completely from my pc. Just reinstalled and installed FT Copenhagen again from scratch. I have a clean, fresh xPlane installation with absolutely nothing but FT Copenhagen.

The .ini file looks like this:

I
1000 Version
SCENERY

SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_city/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_1overlays/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_2Photoreal/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Flytampa_Copenhagen_3Mesh/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Chicago/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Dubai/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Las Vegas/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - London/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - New York/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Sydney/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/X-Plane Landmarks - Washington DC/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDDF Frankfurt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EDLP Paderborn-Lippstadt/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - EGLL Heathrow/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFMN Nice Cote d Azur X/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LFPO Paris Orly/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Aerosoft - LPFR Faro/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/Global Airports/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/KSEA Demo Area/
SCENERY_PACK Custom Scenery/LOWI Demo Area/


When I load xPlane a message comes up saying there was a problem loading the scenery.

Here is a draft from the log file:

0:00:11.026 E/SCN: DSF canceled due to missing art assets, file=Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/Earth nav data/+50+010/+55+012.dsf, err=15 (dsf_ErrCanceled).
0:00:11.026 E/SCN: WARNING: got error on DSF load for scenery file 55, 12, Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: | There was a problem loading the scenery package:
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: | Custom Scenery/FlyTampa_Copenhagen_0_airport/
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: | The scenery may not look correct.
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: | Please see the Log.txt file for detailed error information.
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: | (io_dsf.cpp:839)
0:00:11.026 E/SYS: +-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

[larsras]

you need SAM installed for this to work.