Performance

davidzill
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Re: Performance

Post by davidzill » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:45 am

George, turning off dynamic reflections gave me 10-15 fps
george[flytampa]
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Re: Performance

Post by george[flytampa] » Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:59 am

davidzill wrote:George, turning off dynamic reflections gave me 10-15 fps
Extra? If so that must be the problem for you guys, It actually looks better off anyway.
davidzill
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Re: Performance

Post by davidzill » Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:10 am

george[flytampa] wrote:
davidzill wrote:George, turning off dynamic reflections gave me 10-15 fps
Extra? If so that must be the problem for you guys, It actually looks better off anyway.
Yes indeed, extra.
davidzill
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Re: Performance

Post by davidzill » Mon Mar 12, 2018 12:09 am

So disabling dynamic reflections, 3D animated people, and installing US Cities Boston got me about 20+ extra FPS all together. Still areas on the airfield where FPS takes a dip...one are was turning off runway 22 threshold. Overall looks great.
Lennart320
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Re: Performance

Post by Lennart320 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 7:42 am

Can't confirm George.

I have dynamic reflections disabled all the time and from the beginning on I have that FPS. On any other Flytampa Scenery it runs smooth.

So for me it's not the dynamic reflections
rphillips54
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Re: Performance

Post by rphillips54 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 6:35 pm

How do you turn off Dynamic Reflections? I cant find it
rphillips54
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Re: Performance

Post by rphillips54 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 9:39 pm

I found it never mind. Was looking for a checkbox
zsolt.monostori
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Re: Performance

Post by zsolt.monostori » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:00 am

Dynamic reflection turned off - got an extra 2-3 FPS. In the PMDG 747, spawning on RWY 33L I got around 27-30 FPS. In the FSL A320, I got 23-35 FPS. For comparison, I then placed the PMDG 747 to Flightbeam KSFO, 40-45 FPS, LVFR KMIA 41-47 FPS, T2G EDDM 48-56 FPS, Aerosoft EGLL 30-35 FPS. The performance in KBOS is inferior to all of them, at least 10 FPS short to be enjoyable. I
george[flytampa]
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Re: Performance

Post by george[flytampa] » Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:35 pm

zsolt.monostori wrote:Dynamic reflection turned off - got an extra 2-3 FPS. In the PMDG 747, spawning on RWY 33L I got around 27-30 FPS. In the FSL A320, I got 23-35 FPS. For comparison, I then placed the PMDG 747 to Flightbeam KSFO, 40-45 FPS, LVFR KMIA 41-47 FPS, T2G EDDM 48-56 FPS, Aerosoft EGLL 30-35 FPS. The performance in KBOS is inferior to all of them, at least 10 FPS short to be enjoyable. I
It's a very compact detailed scenery but there's very little I can do to improve it for you. I'm curious about your Heathrow figures, however. Boston is running 10 FPS better than Heathrow here so I suspect you have a setup problem. Your performance isn't that bad anyway.

Turn off 3d People. If enabled. +5-10fps
Boston is surrounded by water so the water detail & reflections will have more of an impact than inland scenery.
Turn down your AI.
Consider Aerosoft's City scenery. +5-10 fps boost There's always been a severe hit near Microsoft enhanced city scenery.

We have a 4.1 patch coming that adds SODE jetways. These add +3-5 fps.
Boston was exhaustively optimized to the hilt. It's just a tough area.
zsolt.monostori
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Re: Performance

Post by zsolt.monostori » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:40 am

Thank you for your response.

Aerosoft Heathrow is maxed out - I mean every box has been ticked in its configuration utility and it runs smooth as silk.

As for Boston, I have already switched off 3D people, did not gain a single FPS to be honest so I find these "extra 10 FPS gain" like statements slightly unrealistic. By the way, I have 3D people enabled in every other FlyTampa product that I own, and they do not make any difference when it comes to FPS.

I do not use any AI. I fly online only so you can imagine how sparsely populated the airport is. On my last two flights involving KBOS I haven't seen a single aircraft. Sorry, maybe one, when I spawned.

Last night I did a flight from KBOS to KATL, using the FSLabs A320, departed in the dusk, average FPS around 20, often going below 15 for a fraction of a second as well as rising to 22-24 for a brief moment, but in general, staying between 18-22. Not really an enjoyable performance and certainly not the performance I am used to.

I have just finished the return leg from KATL to KBOS and the performance was even worse this time. Daylight arrival, although cloudy. On final approach to RWY 04R, FPS topped around 20, often decreasing to as low as 14 for shorter moments, it was difficult to control the aircraft like this. Going to the left wing view, shortly before touch down, overflying some containers and ships, I got around 15-19 FPS. The low FPS continued after landing and while taxiing in to gate C16, high teens, very low twenties, not fun at all.

No other scenery products force my sim down to its knees like KBOS therefore it is unlikely that my settings are to blame. If everything but one works well, I guess it is logical to suspect that the problem lies within that minority. And I am talking about complex products such as the entire Flightbeam and FSDreamTeam product range, Aerosoft's EGLL, Taxi2Gate's LFPG and EDDM, LatinVFR's KMIA just to name a few. Mnay of them situated in way more complex areas, also with their own skylines, water surroundings and whatnot. The worse performer on my machine, apart from KBOS is the "new: Aerosoft PANC which produces similar - although somewhat better - results, still being borderline enjoyable.

As for my KBOS settings, everything is ticked except 3D people, with Airport lights set to Normal and Ground lighting is set to Dynamic lighting.

As for Aerosoft's Boston City, I read different reports, some mentioned improvement, some mentioned worse performance, I don't want to invest in something uncertain in order to try and "patch" a product that is underperforming - can easily be money thrown out, making KBOS one of the most expensive yet least enjoyable scenery product of all times on my end.

I am hoping that you will be able to increase the performance in an upcoming patch. Apart from KBOS, I found that CYYZ is also quite FPS demanding. For some reason, however, I had no issues in EHAM, although I haven't tried the scenery using the FSLabs A320 yet.
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thomas747400
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Re: Performance

Post by thomas747400 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 7:38 pm

I have just purchased and installed FlyTampa Boston Rebooted. The scenery is stunning but I do experience the same performance problems noted by other users.

CPU i7-4790
GPU 980TI
RAM 16GB

I run a single seat cockpit with external networked avionics software and a very basic aircraft model in P3Dv4.2 so there is little strain on PC performance other than scenery.

I own a total of 5 other FlyTamp Sceneries (Vienna, Sydney Montreal, Copenhagen, Athens) all of which have great performance and never drop below 30FPS (I have a 30FPS limit set in Nvidia). I have many Aerosoft, FlightBeam and FSDreamteam sceneries installed and I achieve great performance with all of them.

KBOS has lots of stutters and FPS drop when the terminal is in view dropping to as low as 14FPS. It is flyable but not very enjoyable. I made a number of setting changes as mentioned in this forum post none of which made much difference.

I have considered purchasing Aerosoft Boston hwoever there are no winter textures available and the main reason I bought FT Boston is because how good it looks in winter.

Thomas
seven87
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Re: Performance

Post by seven87 » Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:01 am

I remember a while ago when i installed Flytampa EHAM i had very low fps which was caused by the Flytampa Library being under the Airport entry. Moving the entry above again solved my issue, since Boston uses P3D's new installation method the library entry is always below Boston may this be the cause for a performance loss for some users?
zsolt.monostori
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Re: Performance

Post by zsolt.monostori » Sun May 13, 2018 2:45 pm

Well. Even after the newest update, KBOS is horrible when it comes to performance. In fact I did not gain a single FPS, despite the prognosis of +10 FPS here and +2-3 FPS there, if that was true I should now have a stable 35 FPS but it's not the case and to be honest I never even had high hopes when reading this unrealistic statements. This airport is very poorly optimised, as simple as that. One can switch off everything but it's still just as rough. It looks great, sure, but is basically unusable, at least I find a scenery with 18-20 FPS unacceptable. It's easy to blame it on the water, the cityscape and other elements but in fact other complex airports in way more demanding areas perform way, way better. I am very disappointed, this product is the worst FlyTampa ever released. If this is going to be the future from the development team then I will remove it from my list of preferred developers. Long gone are the days of smooth yet detailed airports such as Vienna, Dubai, Montreal, Midway, Copenhagen. Looking good and adding unnecessary elements a pilot would never even notice is one thing but what is the point when the key aspect of simulation, good performance is completely is absent. This product comes nowhere near that of developers such as FsDreamTeam, Flightbeam, Taxi2Gate, Digital Design or JustSim, just to name a few, who deliver excellent quality with none to minimum impact on FPS
sunnya
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Re: Performance

Post by sunnya » Sat May 26, 2018 4:03 am

I am having also problems with KBOS. Specifically when I enter the STAR, FPS suddenly drops from 45 and fluctuates 15-30 which sucks because literally ruins my approach. The interesting thing is that if load up my plane on KBOS and depart from there I get steady 30-35 FPS. There is something definitely wrong that hopefully George can improve or fix. I tested two long-haul flights coming from EHAM and EDDF to KBOS. Both flights same experience. Entering the STAR and it's a mess. This does not happen on other airports. Just so you know I am running with I7-7700K OCD's to 4.8, 32GB RAM, ASUS GTX 1080, SSD. And BTW, I've followed the thread and disabled/enabled everything suggested. It just does not make any difference. The only thing I don't have is Aerosoft Boston city X but I don't think I should purchase a software that might improve the FPS. Looking forward to hear is something can be improved.

Thanks
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