v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

maggussje
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v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Sat Aug 05, 2017 8:53 am

Hi everyone,

For me P3D runs insanely stable, no crashes in 140+ hours. Sometimes I even do up to four consecutive legs in the same plane, without restarting the sim.

However, since I got LGAV a couple of days ago, I get a CTD almost everytime I fly an approach into LGAV. Tried nine 03R approaches so far and had seven crashes at almost exactly the same spot (see screenshots--the one without an error message was taken during the freeze/crash) and one of the two times I managed to get to the runway, I had a CTD during the G/A.

I switched off the 3D grass in the configurator and both of the filenames containing "grass" manually. I don't know what else to do tbh...

Any help is highly appreciated!

Thank you

p.s.: applied the patch and also got rid of the PAPI-light files
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george[flytampa]
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by george[flytampa] » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:30 am

Did you install something new recently?

Try moving ATH up the scenery library. Sometimes forcing the scenery database to rebuild helps prevent crashing.
maggussje
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Sat Aug 05, 2017 9:33 am

Hi George,

Thank you for the quick reply.

No, LGAV was the last thing I installed. Will give the rebuild a try and let you know...

Cheers
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maggussje
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Sat Aug 05, 2017 10:15 am

Well, unfortunatly it didn't help... :(

[Edit] And even with all options disabled in the configurator the sim still crashes over/close to the airport...
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maggussje
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Sat Aug 05, 2017 12:33 pm

Another thing, Athens by day doesn't seem to be problematic, no crashes within 30 minutes--but it only takes between 0 and 10 minutes until it crashes at night.

[Edit] Did a reinstall of LGAV and the result is the same as you can see
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george[flytampa]
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by george[flytampa] » Sat Aug 05, 2017 6:31 pm

Have you tried disabling the Ground & Apron FX? They look like they have multiplied into a super bright mess in your screenshot.
maggussje
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:58 am

maggussje wrote:Well, unfortunatly it didn't help... :(

[Edit] And even with all options disabled in the configurator the sim still crashes over/close to the airport...
Yes, I tried that as well. And the scenery seems to be fine by day, the crashes only occur at night.

p.s.: EHAM seems to work at night, EKCH as well.
liveopenskies
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by liveopenskies » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:06 am

Hello,

Any news from Athens p3d v4 compatibility ? I installed it yesterday and used the p3d v4 patch, just logged the aircraft for about 3 minutes and p3d crashed.
maggussje
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:43 am

liveopenskies wrote:Hello,

Any news from Athens p3d v4 compatibility ? I installed it yesterday and used the p3d v4 patch, just logged the aircraft for about 3 minutes and p3d crashed.
Did it happen during day or at night?


And this is me right now btw:
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by liveopenskies » Wed Aug 09, 2017 10:21 am

maggussje wrote:
liveopenskies wrote:Hello,

Any news from Athens p3d v4 compatibility ? I installed it yesterday and used the p3d v4 patch, just logged the aircraft for about 3 minutes and p3d crashed.
Did it happen during day or at night?


And this is me right now btw:
It was during dusk, but no crash with the p3d v3 version, only after extracting the v4 patch files and deleted x4 -papi.bgl
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by george[flytampa] » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:00 pm

I had a 20min fly around Athens at night & didn't encounter any CTDs.

Do you have a stable system? Enough Memory? Overheating?
I don't really know what else to suggest.
maggussje
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:12 am

george[flytampa] wrote:I had a 20min fly around Athens at night & didn't encounter any CTDs.

Do you have a stable system? Enough Memory? Overheating?
I don't really know what else to suggest.
George,

Please take another look at my initial post. In the two months I spent with P3D v4 I didn't have a single CTD. I can run the sim 12+ hours in one go doing consecutive flights across Europe, there's no issue anywhere.

The only problem is Athens at night, it CTD in any plane--sometimes during loading the sim, sometimes after a couple of minutes. I tried every option there is in the configurator to no avail.

Since I really need this to work, I'm going to disable some of the files from the patch manually to see whether the problem comes from any of them and maybe give you a hint what to look at. Your EHAM and EKCH scenery works fine at night btw.

I'll let you know whether I can make some progress in identifying the file(s), which might cause this...
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by maggussje » Thu Aug 10, 2017 3:06 am

Okay, it seems as if I've have nailed it down to the core of the problem. As the title already says, the issue occured first during the approach into LGAV, at the same spot actually (see screenshots). I guess it was the point where the approach lights have been handled/loaded by the sim. Spawning directly at the airport and flying over it then triggered the crash at different spots.

What I did to get a stable environment was to disable the following files (Rwy*apprlights.bgl):
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I hope I was able to help you a little bit. Could you guys at FlyTampa please have a look into this now?

Thank you very much!
liveopenskies
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Re: v4 CTD During Approach--3D Grass Off

Post by liveopenskies » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:06 pm

george[flytampa] wrote:I had a 20min fly around Athens at night & didn't encounter any CTDs.

Do you have a stable system? Enough Memory? Overheating?
I don't really know what else to suggest.
Here my config, i5-4670k CPU @ 3.40GHz, 16GB RAM, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680.

I use orbx FTX global base pack, vector, open LC Europe, tree HD and FTX global lights configurator.

I stayed 20min in the airport during day and night and no CTD. Dont know what happened the other day, will notice you if CTD happens again.
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